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Kvothe May Carry the Cthaeh's Power, and the Shattered Bottle Proves It

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The wine bottle Kvothe breaks with a clenched fist isn't sympathy but a power he seized from the Cthaeh.

About: Kvothe, The Cthaeh

Also involves: Sympathy, Bast, Chronicler, Naming, The Sithe

The theory§

This theory contends that the strawberry-wine bottle Kvothe shatters with a clenched fist in the frame is not sympathy but a power he took from the Cthaeh. Its central pillar is Bast's warning to Chronicler never to ask why Kvothe no longer performs sympathy, which the theory reads as proof the act must be something else. It ties this to Chronicler's recalled rumour that Kvothe sought his heart's desire, tricked a demon to win it, then fought an angel to keep it — identifying the demon as the Cthaeh and the angel as one of the Sithe, the Fae who guard the Cthaeh's tree and kill all who leave it. The manner of the bottle's breaking is likened to how the Cthaeh kills the butterflies around its tree, and Kvothe's Adem deathname Maedre, "broken tree," is read as symbolic confirmation. The reading is contested on the grounds that Kvothe does still slip into sympathy and music unconsciously in the inn, so a single bottle shattering need not be a foreign power at all.

Evidence§

  • Kvothe clenched his hand into a fist and 8 inches away a bottle of strawberry wine shattered. … With kvothe remaining perfectly still.
    Core observation: the bottle shatters at a distance while Kvothe stays still. — u/Housebread
  • It isnt sympathy, as Bast makes a point of saying later in the book not to ask about why he doesn't do sympathy anymore.
    Central pillar: Bast's warning implies the act is something other than sympathy. — u/Housebread
  • almost immediately after the bottle breaks chronicler recounts a story he heard about kvothe seeking out his hearts deaire and tricking a demon to get it and once its power was in his hand he had to fight an angel to keep it.
    Ties bottle to the rumour of seizing a power from a demon, then fighting an angel. — u/Housebread
  • Of all things horrible and terrifying what in this story more closely resembles a proper demon than the ctheah.
    Identifies the rumour's demon as the Cthaeh. — u/Housebread
  • I think the angel in the story chronicler remembers is one of the Sithe. … The sithe are also known as white riders, riding snow white horses and carrying silver swords, and armor. Which would sound a lot like an angel
    Identifies the rumour's angel as a Sithe guardian of the Cthaeh's tree. — u/Housebread
  • The way the bottle breaks, resembles the way the Ctheah would kill butterflies.
    Manner of breaking likened to the Cthaeh killing butterflies. — u/Housebread
  • Kvothes possibly prophetic name maedre meaning broken tree.
    Adem deathname 'broken tree' read as symbolic confirmation. — u/Housebread
  • I've always interpreted the bottle breaking scene as like unfocused/unconscious sympathy.
    CounterCounter: the breaking could just be unconscious sympathy. — u/Jaxxly0174
  • You say about how it's not sympathy, but your reasoning is flawed. There's no music, and yet he hums and sings.
    CounterCounter: 'no sympathy' logic fails since he still slips into music. — u/Honest-Bridge-7278

Book refs: NOTW ch 6

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