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Shaping Is Just Re-Naming, and Folly Is a Reshaped Caesura

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Naming controls a thing within its nature; Shaping changes the name itself, and Kvothe reshaped his sword into Folly.

About: Shaping, Naming, Folly

Also involves: Caesura, Elodin, Denna, Auri, Iax, Felurian, The Boy Who Stole the Moon, Abenthy, Fela

The theory§

This theory frames Shaping as Re-Naming. Where Naming grants command over a thing only within its inherent nature, so that the name of the wind can only make the wind blow, Shaping rewrites a thing's true name to make it something new, no longer bound by its former constraints, though a Shaper must work from existing material rather than from nothing. By this logic, when Kvothe renames Saicere to Caesura he reshapes it to fit a new purpose, a jarring break in a line of perfect verse, and uses it to kill the Vintish king, a literal break in a Vintic line. Mindful of Abenthy's warnings, he later renames the sword again to Folly, a shift drastic enough to render it physically different, and mounts it above the bar of an inn that is itself a folly. The theory ties Seeing to Naming and Listening to Shaping, drawing on Hespe's tale that Jax was not listening and refused to learn the trick of it, and extends to Denna learning to listen and to Auri as a student who tried to re-name herself and became lost.

Evidence§

  • SHAPING is changing a thing by changing its true name. Shaping is Re-Naming. Example: You change the name from *apple-tree* to *silver-fruit-tree*, and it becomes a new tree, a new 'invention'. The new tree is no longer limited by the constraints of its former name
    Core claim: Shaping equals Re-Naming, freeing a thing from its old constraints. — u/chainsawx72
  • Naming the wind can only make it blow, it can't do anything that wind can't do.
    Establishes Naming's limit, contrasting it with Shaping's power to change nature. — u/chainsawx72
  • Also, you can't shape something from nothing... this is important. A shaped sword must begin as an unshaped sword, or piece of metal, or something
    Key constraint: a Shaper must work from existing material, not from nothing. — u/chainsawx72
  • Kvothe believes the swords name is Caesura, and begins to refer to it as Caesura, 'reshaping' the sword to a new purpose … He renames/shapes it 'Caesura' and uses it to kill the Vintish king (a break in a *Vintic line*) … he renames the sword Folly, this time far removed from its original name, causing it to be noticeably physically different.
    Applies theory: Kvothe reshapes Saicere to Caesura then Folly via renaming. — u/chainsawx72
  • Kvothe renames his weapon folly and secures it to a folly that he builds arguably for a trap? One could say he shaped his weapon into the inn itself.
    Refines: Folly the sword mounted on an architectural folly, the inn-as-trap. — u/bluvo8
  • Felurian states that of those who she named Shapers, it was the first and greatest of these that stole the moon. And Hespes story states Jax “wasn’t listening” and refused to learn the trick of it when offered. If listening is required to become a shaper, wouldn’t the first and greatest shaper be an expert at it?
    CounterCounter: greatest Shaper Jax wasn't listening, challenging Listening-equals-Shaping. — u/nIBLIB
  • I also have a pet theory that Auri was a student of naming who attempted to re-name herself and got... Lost. … I think that also explains Elodin's reaction when Kvothe asks him about what it means when someone (Denna) changes their calling name.
    Extends theory: Auri as a student who tried to re-name herself and was lost. — u/ABlindMoose
  • The logic here is flawed. Knowing that changing the name is bad Kvothe changes the name of the sword one more time. In my opinion the name Folly is even more dangerous than Caesura.
    CounterCounter: renaming again to Folly contradicts Abenthy's warning, undermining the chain. — u/MikeMaxM

Book refs: WMF, NOTW

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