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Granted Power and Group Belief: A Person Can Owe Fealty to Himself

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Noble ranks, taxes, and group Alar are all granted power, and a key figure may be one man who is legally more than one person.

About: Alar

Also involves: Maer Lerand Alveron, Laurian, Naming, Kvothe, Bredon

The theory§

This theory traces a distinction the Maer Alveron draws between inherent power and granted power: a noble's authority, the taxes and tithe owed to those above, are forms of power lent upward by many to one. It binds this to the concept of group Alar, in which a mass of people holding the same belief lends that conviction real weight, and to Bredon's observation that 'sometimes a person is actually more than one person, technically speaking.' The hinge is Kvothe's anecdote of a man who owed fealty and a share of his own taxes to himself, an apparently absurd legal arrangement read here as a closed loop of self-granted, potentially limitless power. The recurring 'Folding King' figure and coin and penance-piece motifs are taken as further hints that recursion of identity and granted power is a hidden mechanism in the world, possibly tied to how a figure like Lanre or the Chandrian acquired or became trapped by power.

Evidence§

  • Following that trail leads you to the Maer's lessons on the type of power, inherent and granted. The lesson that granted power *has no limits*, and how paying taxes is a form of granted power. Similar to group Alar, getting the masses to believe in the same thing with their "riding crop belief", lending you their power.
    OP's core premise: granted power (taxes, group Alar) is unlimited power lent upward.u/Smurphilicious
  • Sometimes a person is actually more than one person, technically speaking … One man, but two different political entities.
    Bredon (quoted by OP): one person can legally be more than one entity.u/Smurphilicious
  • My mother once told me she knew a man who owed fealty to himself … Owed himself a share of his own taxes every year
    Kvothe's anecdote (quoted by OP): the hinge example of self-granted power loop.u/Smurphilicious
  • because one person is two entities, a man who owes fealty to himself, ***he owes himself taxes***, it's recursion. The best presentation for this is the computer science version of recursion
    OP reads the self-fealty as recursion, a finite statement defining infinite power.u/Smurphilicious
  • since energy cannot be destroyed, the only way to defeat it is to loop it in a circle. The recursion, calling his own Name from within himself, becomes the trap. Cursed by his own name, bound to a great wheel. Folding in on himself
    OP ties recursion to Lanre's power and the Folding King trap.u/Smurphilicious
  • What if you take the group alar and maybe sing a song about specific people? … Everyone everywhere singing a song, granted power as you have it
    Comment extends group Alar: Denna's famous song as mass granted power.u/NRichYoSelf
  • I swear to God I don't know how many times I have to say it but *if* you are going to divide something by infinity … then you get 0 not infinity.
    CounterCounter: the divide-by-infinity math underpinning the theory is wrong.u/123josephx
  • are we saying recursion grants infinite power to the recurser, like the man who owes himself taxes, or that it forms a prison? … How can power be a zero sum game and also infinite through recursion?
    CounterCounter: theory's claims (infinite power vs trap, zero-sum vs infinite) are contradictory.u/Khajit_has_memes

Book refs: WMF

Tier reasoning§

tier kept: speculative magic-mechanism thread from scattered clues

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