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Kvothe Travels to Modeg Chasing the Lackless Box's Lost Key

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The splintered Lackless family names hint the key to the thrice-locked box ended up with the Kaepcaen line in Modeg.

About: Kvothe, The Lackless Box, Modeg

Also involves: Caudicus, Meluan Lackless, The Doors of Stone, Lackless Family

The theory§

This theory holds that the missing key to the thrice-locked Lackless box rests with the Modegan branch of the family, and that recovering it draws Kvothe to Modeg. Caudicus relates that an ancient falling-out splintered the Lackless line into separately-named branches: the Atur branch became the 'Lack-key' family (origin of the word 'lackey'), the southern branch became the Lacliths, and the Modegan branch became the Kaepcaen. The theory reads these splinter names as deliberate clues, the heirloom box being the family's defining secret: 'Lack-key' literally lacks the key, while 'Kaepcaen' could be 'keep coin' or 'keep key' in a heavy accent, implying the Modegan line kept what the others lost. Supporting threads note Kvothe is said to have met a Modegan lady as a child who taught him how that court works, and that the Modegan royal family is described as ancient. The reasoning is acknowledged as phonetically thin, and against it stands Rothfuss's own remark that Kvothe does not go to Modeg within the trilogy.

Evidence§

  • Pat has mentioned in the past that Modeg is one of the places that Kvothe may visit in Book 3. I think I found a clue to why Kvothe goes there.
    OP sets up premise: Modeg is a Book 3 destination, seeks the reason.u/Methatox
  • It’s generally accepted that there was some sort of falling out that splintered the family. Each piece took on a separate name. In Atur they became the Lack-key family. … In the south they became the Lacliths … The same with the Kaepcaen in Modeg.
    Book quote (via OP): the Lackless line splintered into separately-named branches.u/Methatox
  • It’s fairly obvious that the name of the Lackless family relates to their heirloom … The Lack-keys literally lack the key to the box … The Kaepcaen sounds awfully like “keep coin” or “keep key” in a heavy accent.
    Core argument: splinter names are clues; Modegan Kaepcaen kept the key.u/Methatox
  • It’s a little weak, but Rothfuss also reminds us (directly through Caudicus in this chapter, no less) that names are important, and in that way the text seems pretty suggestive here.
    OP concedes the phonetic reasoning is thin but appeals to naming significance.u/Methatox
  • Then there is a mention about Kvothe as a little boy meeting with a Modegan lady who taught him how the court works there.Interesting, isn't it?
    Adds supporting detail: Kvothe has a childhood connection to the Modegan court.u/Material-Aardvark152
  • And the modegan royal family is said to be ancient.
    Refines support: Modegan royals are ancient, fitting an old heirloom link.u/whoisthisnoonguy
  • And he said, ‘Does Kvothe ever go there?’ … And I said, ‘No, no he doesn’t. Not in the trilogy.’
    CounterCounter: Rothfuss himself says Kvothe does not go to Modeg in the trilogy.u/czechancestry
  • Pretty sure he has already been to Modeg … in order to get from just outside the Eld to Ademre, Kvothe and Tempi would have had to run across the entirety of Modeg. Don't imagine he learned much about the Lackless family on that though.
    CounterCounter/refine: Kvothe may have already crossed Modeg without pursuing the key.u/hamsterofborg

Book refs: WMF ch 62

Tier reasoning§

tier downgraded: the key-in-Modeg claim rests on a speculative phonetic pun

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