The Lackless Box
“An unopenable heirloom box of strange wood that holds the Lackless secret”
also known as Loeclos box, loeclos box, the box that holds the thing forgotten, the box that holds things forgotten, thrice-locked chest
Appearance§
A box of strange dark wood, reddish-black rather than fully coal-black, roughly the size of a book, smooth and sinuous in form, resembling roah but subtly distinct from it. It gives off a faint, maddeningly familiar scent that Kvothe likens to lemon, with notes of smoke, spice, and leather. Yllish story-knots are faintly etched into its surface, too subtle for the Maer to feel by touch. It has no visible lid, hinge, lock, or seam, though Kvothe can feel faint lines on its surface and senses something shifting inside when it is moved. The related thrice-locked chest at the Waystone is a separate vessel of roah wood bound with three locks, two of them keyed and a third hidden, which will not burn and resists being opened.
Description§
The Lackless box, also called the Loeclos box and 'the box that holds the thing forgotten,' is an ancient heirloom of the Lackless family, passed unopened down the line for generations. It is made of an unusual dark wood, reddish-black rather than fully coal-black, that resembles roah but is subtly distinct from it, and it gives off a faint, maddeningly familiar scent that Kvothe likens to lemon. Yllish story-knots are faintly etched into its surface, too subtle for the Maer to feel by touch though Kvothe can sense them. It has no visible lid, hinge, lock, or seam, yet something shifts and slides inside when it is handled, and Kvothe judges the hidden contents to be smaller than a saltbox and metallic by the way its weight moves. The Lady Lackless rhyme says it holds 'her husband's rocks.' Meluan Lackless keeps the box and shows it to the Maer and to Kvothe, who recognizes it as the twin of one his own mother possessed. In the frame story, a separate but related vessel sits in Kote's room at the Waystone Inn: a thrice-locked chest of roah wood that will not burn, bears an Yllish knot inscription alongside its keyed locks, and opens for no one, resisting even Kvothe's own attempts.
Relationships§
- Recognized By Kvothe — Kvothe recognizes it as the twin of one his own mother possessed
- Sought By The Chandrian — The Chandrian seek the Lackless box
- Heirloom Of The Lackless Family — Ancient heirloom of the Lackless (Loeclos) family, passed unopened for generations
- Holds The Moon — In the Jax tale, a part of the moon's name is sealed inside the Loeclos box
- Scent Matches The Cthaeh — Its scent of smoke, spice, and leather matches the smell of the Cthaeh's tree
- Twin Owned By Laurian — Kvothe recognizes it as the twin of one his mother Laurian possessed
- Related To The Thrice-Locked Chest — A related thrice-locked roah chest sits in Kote's room and opens for no one but Kvothe
- Kept By Meluan Lackless — Meluan Lackless keeps the box and shows it to the Maer and to Kvothe
- Resembles Roah — Made of dark reddish-black wood resembling but distinct from roah
- Described In Lackless Rhymes — The Lady Lackless rhyme says she keeps her husband's rocks in a box with no lid or locks
Established facts§
- The Lackless box is an ancient heirloom of the Lackless (Loeclos) family, passed unopened down the line for generations, and is called 'the box that holds the thing forgotten.'
- It is made of an unusual dark, reddish-black wood resembling but distinct from roah, and is roughly the size of a book.
- It gives off a faint, maddeningly familiar scent that Kvothe likens to lemon, with notes of smoke, spice, and leather matching the smell of the Cthaeh's tree.
- It bears Yllish story-knots faintly etched into its surface; the Maer cannot feel them, but Kvothe can.
- It has no visible lid, hinge, lock, or seam, yet something shifts and slides inside when it is handled.
- Kvothe judges the hidden contents to be smaller than a saltbox and metallic by the way the weight moves when the box is tilted.
- The Lady Lackless rhyme says she keeps her husband's rocks in a box with no lid or locks.
- Meluan Lackless keeps the box and shows it to the Maer and to Kvothe.
- Kvothe recognizes the box as the twin of one his own mother possessed.
- In the Jax tale, a part of the moon's name is sealed inside the Loeclos box.
- The Lackless name descends from a family once called Loeclos, Loklos, or Loeloes, all meaning 'Lockless,' which drifted into Lackless, Lack-key, and Lacliths as the family branched across the map.
- A thrice-locked chest of roah wood sits in Kote's room at the Waystone Inn throughout the frame story, sealed and unopened.
- The thrice-locked chest will not burn, bears an Yllish knot inscription alongside its keyed locks, and opens for no one but Kvothe.
- The chest has two visible keyholes and conceals a third, hidden locking point.
- At the end of The Wise Man's Fear, Kvothe is unable to open his own thrice-locked chest.
- Even Bast cannot get into the thrice-locked chest.
- Kvothe is good at untying knots and poor at tying them.
- The Lady Lackless rhyme lists seven secret things, including a ring not for wearing, a sharp word not for swearing, a door without a handle, and the box with no lid or locks.
- The Chandrian seek the Lackless box.
Theories§
- plausible The Lackless Box Is Carved from the Cthaeh's Tree pop 629
- plausible The Lackless Box Holds Jax's Flute That Trapped the Moon pop 502
- plausible The Doors of Stone Plot: Lackless Heritage, the Box, and the Four-Plate Door pop 497
- plausible Cinder's Bandits Were Targeting the Lackless Box, Not Tax Money pop 410
- plausible The Lackless Box Holds the Moon's Stolen Name, Kept Dreaming pop 297
- fringe Kvothe Will Re-Ignite the Creation War by Opening the Lackless Door pop 285
- fringe Kvothe's Thrice-Locked Chest Holds the Three Silences, Not Objects pop 190
- fringe The Chandrian Function Like an Eight-Spring Arrowcatch Around the Moon pop 190
- plausible Lady Lackless' 'Black Dress' Is a Phonetic Cipher for the Blac of Drossen Tor pop 182
- fringe The Lockless Box, Four-Plate Door and Thrice-Locked Chest Each Hold a Name pop 172
- fringe The Lackless Rhymes Are Riddles Encoding Seven Symbolic Dichotomies pop 165
- fringe Chronicler's Surname Lochees Means 'Lock-Key', Tying Him to the Lackless Line pop 161
- plausible Bredon Is Master Ash, the Lackless Box Holds the Moon's Name, and Kvothe Is Part Lackless pop 146
- fringe The Lackless Rhymes Encode a Cyclical Tragedy, Not Just Physical Keys pop 120
- fringe Kvothe's Single Lie: He Was Never Actually Shown the Lackless Box pop 117
- fringe Kvothe's Thrice-Locked Chest May Need Three Separate Keys and Keepers pop 109
- fringe The Lackless Box Holds an Ancient Mommet Binding One of the Seven pop 107
- fringe Kvothe's True Name Is Partly Trapped Inside the Thrice-Locked Box pop 104
- fringe The Thrice-Locked Box Is a Shaper Device That Circumvents Alar Entropy pop 102
- well-supported Kote Is Desperately Trying to Open the Thrice-Locked Chest at the Waystone pop 94
- plausible Kvothe Built the Thrice-Locked Chest as a Puzzle for His Future Self pop 87
- fringe The Lackless Box Is the Unfoldable House From the Story of Jax pop 82
- fringe A Full Story-Format Prediction of How Book Three Unfolds pop 77
- fringe Kvothe Travels to Modeg Chasing the Lackless Box's Lost Key pop 76
- plausible The Loeclos Box Holds Sygaldry Linking It Sympathetically to a Door pop 76
- fringe Kvothe's True Name Is Sealed in the Thrice-Locked Chest and He Won't Get It Back pop 74
- fringe The Lackless Family Is Engineering Vintas's War to Reclaim Their Ancient Lands pop 69
- plausible The Cthaeh's Joke: 'Stick by the Maer' Literally Means the Lackless Box pop 67
- plausible The Lackless Box Is a Sygaldry Heat-Eater Built to Slow the Burning Cities pop 61
- plausible The Edema Ruh Are Wiped Out and Their Name May Be in the Thrice-Locked Chest pop 61
- fringe Kvothe Sealed His Own Magic Away Using a Mommet and Copper Chest pop 57
- fringe The Lackless Box Opens When Kvothe Bleeds On It, Releasing the Moon pop 56
Appears in theories§
- well-supported Kote Hasn't Lost His Powers — He Suppresses Them by Choice and Depression pop 1338
- plausible The Waystone's Silence Is Active Concealment Magic Consuming Kvothe pop 1226
- plausible Kvothe Is Baiting the Chandrian to the Waystone, a Trap Built to Defeat Them pop 904
- plausible Kvothe the Unweaver: Why He Can't Tie Knots and What He Will Undo pop 787
- plausible Kote the Innkeeper Is Bait in a Deliberate Trap for the Chandrian pop 538
- well-supported Kvothe's Mother Laurian Is the Runaway Lackless Sister (Netalia) pop 499
- fringe Denna Is the Moon, or a Living Manifestation Bound to It pop 469
- plausible The Scrael Are Grown From the Cthaeh's Tree and Serve as Its Wardens pop 467
- plausible Master Lorren Is an Amyr Suppressing Chandrian and Amyr Knowledge pop 419
- well-supported Denna Weaves Yllish Story Knots Into Her Hair as a Charm pop 415
- plausible The Thrice-Locked Chest Is Kvothe's Dead Man's Switch for Self-Resurrection pop 408
- plausible Kvothe Lost His Power by Changing His Name to Kote pop 406
- plausible Yllish Knots Record Sound, Making Them a Way to Write Deep Names pop 340
- fringe The Cthaeh Is Selitos, Bound by His Own Blood-Oath to the Tree pop 328
- plausible Chronicler Is Reawakening Kvothe's Name and Power by Writing His Story (Grammarie) pop 295
Top contributors§
People on r/KingkillerChronicle who built the theories above.
- u/JustcallmeSoul — 2 theories · 287 pts · countered
- u/pianoboner44 — 1 theory · 241 pts · corroborated
- u/milbader — 1 theory · 188 pts · extended
- u/smoothie_25 — 1 theory · 182 pts · corroborated
- u/mr_wroboto — 1 theory · 149 pts · extended
- u/Remote-Sky-7890 — 1 theory · 117 pts · clarified
- u/Frydog42 — 1 theory · 114 pts · countered
- u/chainsawx72 — 4 theories · 114 pts · clarified/corroborated/countered/extended
- u/ainRingeck — 1 theory · 102 pts · corroborated
- u/gaussianna — 1 theory · 98 pts · extended
- u/Sweeper1985 — 1 theory · 98 pts · corroborated
- u/TasyFan — 2 theories · 95 pts · clarified/countered