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Kilvin's Ancient Relics Point to a Lost Advanced Civilisation

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Strange artefacts in Kilvin's possession suggest a prior technologically advanced civilisation existed on Temerant.

About: Master Kilvin

Also involves: Auri, The Underthing, The University, The Ruach, Aleu

The theory§

This theory catalogues a set of anomalous ancient artefacts in Master Kilvin's keeping at the Fishery and argues they are relics of a prior, technologically advanced civilization on Temerant, possibly the Ruach or the Aleu. Among them are warding stones, a device that absorbs angular momentum, a metal that absorbs heat and cannot be marred, and a pane of black glass with one perfectly frictionless side, each loosely analogous to a modern or speculative technology. The argument extends to other anachronisms threaded through the world: the ever-burning lamps as analogues of electric light, the Underthing as the ruin of an older built civilization, the scrael as automated defensive constructs, and the casual in-world grasp of germ theory, shown when Master Arwyl chides Mola for washing her hands before stitching Kvothe. Taken together, the theory frames these as deliberately seeded remnants of lost high knowledge, while explicitly hedging against literal aliens or science fiction in favor of a vanished advanced culture.

Evidence§

  • the advanced relics Kilvin has from the ancient past would be hecka useful on a spaceship
    OP's core claim: Kilvin's ancient relics resemble advanced technology — u/bluesy22
  • Warding stones = forcefield … Device that absorbs angular momentum = space anchor … Metal that absorbs heat and can't be marred = hull tile … Black glass with one frictionless side = buckyball
    OP catalogues specific relics, each mapped to advanced technology — u/bluesy22
  • they know about germs (Master Arwyll chastises Mola in NotW for washing her hands before coming to stitch Kvothe after his first whipping)
    OP adds germ-theory knowledge as another anachronistic advanced detail — u/bluesy22
  • Ever burning lamp = light bulb
    Comment adds ever-burning lamps as an electric-light analogue — u/ravnson
  • Scrael = Automated defense robots
    Comment adds scrael as automated defensive constructs — u/Erur-Dan
  • I definetly think there were ancient, more tech advanced civilizations roaming Temerant before the current events. I believe the Underthing is a remnant of that. Maybe Kilvin's trinkets are proof of that too.
    Comment endorses theory and adds the Underthing as a remnant — u/CharlyVazquez
  • I really wouldn't like it to be literallt aliens or sci-fi stuff.
    CounterCounter/refinement: pushes back on literal aliens or sci-fi reading — u/CharlyVazquez
  • an ancient civilization which was more technologically advanced (maybe even just modern earth levels) would be neat and fit this
    Refines theory toward a vanished advanced culture rather than aliens — u/NatKayz

Book refs: WMF, NOTW

Tier reasoning§

tier downgraded: relics are real but the spacefaring-civilisation reading is a speculative leap

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