The Chandrian Are a Wheel Holding Iax Bound Beyond the Doors
Haliax binds Iax within himself and the six Chandrian are spokes whose Alar holds the flood at bay.
About: The Chandrian, Haliax, Iax
Also involves: Cinder, Folly, Alar, The Doors of Stone, Kvothe, The Moon, Lyra, Felurian, Aleph, Bast
The theory§
This theory recasts the Chandrian as a turning wheel: Lanre, having defeated the great beast and wrought himself armor of black scales, did not merely don armor but bound the skin-changer Iax inside his own body, becoming Haliax, sleepless for some five thousand years. The other six Chandrian are read as the spokes of the wheel, lending their Alar to hold Iax restrained or to keep shut the Doors of Stone of the cities they betrayed, the disasters that recur every seven years being the wheel's revolution. Folly, the name Kvothe gives his sword, is taken as recognition that Cinder is one of the six holding the flood at bay, so that slaying him in Severen breaks a spoke and loosens Iax's prison, explaining the scrael coming over the mountains. The figure of Lyra, called the Moon, is positioned between the candle of flame and the candle of shadow on the Mauthen vase, pulling Lanre and Iax back from beyond the doors of death. A further extension proposes Kvothe is growing into an Angel-like figure who might take Cinder's vacated place as a new Chandrian.
Evidence§
what if the chandrian are the wheel? Every seven years disaster strikes. Like a wheel revolving
Core claim: Chandrian are a turning wheel; recurring disasters are its revolution — u/ContributionShort634Lanre binding iax to himself creating haliax
Identifies Haliax as Lanre who bound Iax into himself — u/ContributionShort634iax being a skin changer and lanre keeping him bound inside him for 5,000 years and not a single second sleep
Explains the binding mechanism and Haliax's sleeplessness — u/ContributionShort634The six other chandrian are the spokes to the wheel possibly using their alar to aid lanre in keeping iax bound
The other six Chandrian are spokes lending Alar to hold Iax — u/ContributionShort634Kvothe sword is named folly because he realizes now that cinder is one of the six that hold the flood at bay. Once he kills him in book 3 one of the wheels spokes have been broken, and thus releasing its grip on iax
Folly = recognition that killing Cinder breaks a spoke, loosening Iax — u/ContributionShort634By killing cinder he opens the door to cinders city explaining why kvothe speaks of the scrael coming from “over the mountains”
Predicts consequence: scrael appear because Cinder's door opens — u/ContributionShort634I like the idea of haliax being in an on going struggle with iax
Comment endorses the ongoing Haliax-versus-Iax struggle — u/TheLastSockKvothe not being able to use sympathy in the "now" could fit with him replacing cinder and holding the door shut/closing the door and there being a period of time where it wasn't shut before he took over
Adds evidence: frame-Kvothe's lost sympathy fits him replacing Cinder — u/DoItForTheVoidDef like the wheel part. I think the bottom part gets a bit wooly
CounterCounter: accepts the wheel but doubts the later speculation — u/whoisthisnoonguyI was with you until paragraph 6, maybe a little speculative for my liking
CounterCounter: theory becomes too speculative past paragraph six — u/PersonofInterest20
Book refs: NOTW, WMF
Tier reasoning§
no change; speculative wheel mechanism, fringe is correct
Contributors§
- u/whoisthisnoonguy — extended · 17 pts
- u/DoItForTheVoid — extended · 12 pts