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The Story of Tehlu and Encanis Is Really the Cthaeh's Imprisonment

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Encanis, the most evil demon bound by Tehlu, is the Cthaeh, fixing that imprisonment to after the making of the Fae.

About: The Cthaeh, Encanis

Also involves: Tehlu, Trapis, The Fae, Iax, Haliax, Lyra, The Creation War

The theory§

This theory identifies Encanis, the supreme demon of Trapis's story of Tehlu, with the Cthaeh, on the grounds that each is singled out as the single most evil and corrupting force in creation. In Trapis's telling Encanis is the swallowing darkness whose voice is like a knife in the minds of men, who corrupts everything he touches; the Cthaeh is described as the most dangerous thing in either world, a creature whose every truthful word is chosen to do maximum harm. Because the Cthaeh is bound to a single tree within the Fae, the binding of Encanis must postdate the Fae's creation, which anchors the historical timeline. From this the theory derives specific claims about the relationships among the Cthaeh, Iax, Lanre and Lyra. Objections note that the iron wheel is shown punishing Encanis for lies, whereas the Cthaeh is said only never to lie, and that Felurian regards the Chandrian as more evil than the Cthaeh.

Evidence§

  • one stood above all others in evil and wickedness Encanis, the swallowing darkness
    OP's premise: Trapis's story singles out Encanis as supremely evil. — u/SeawolvesTV
  • this most evil Demon is the same one we later meet, calling himself Chteah, and who is living inside/bound to a giant tree in the Fea
    Core claim equating Encanis with the Cthaeh in the tree. — u/SeawolvesTV
  • This story clearly places his imprisonment in the tree, after the creation of the Fea, Because the Fea must have been in existence already when he was imprisoned there.
    Timeline anchor: binding must postdate the Fae's creation. — u/SeawolvesTV
  • Nothing in this world or mine is more dangerous then the Chteah
    Bast's testimony mirrors Encanis as the most dangerous creature. — u/SeawolvesTV
  • the ability to see all possible futures, and the demon then using his speech to bend people towards the most dire and disastrous future path possible
    Cthaeh's power explains Encanis doing the work of a thousand demons. — u/SeawolvesTV
  • Felurion also tells Kvote that the Chteah does not lie, but that it uses the truth to break the minds of men.
    Third source confirming truth-only weaponizing, matching the wheel that punishes lies. — u/SeawolvesTV
  • If it cannot lie, then it would never get punished. There are multiple instances in the story of lies that are punished.
    CounterCounter: the lie-punishing wheel contradicts a creature that cannot lie. — u/Zhorangi
  • Felurian regards the Seven as more evil than the Cthaeh: she refuses to even talk about the Seven, but has no such hesitation with the Cthaeh.
    CounterCounter: Chandrian deemed more evil, undercutting the 'most evil' equivalence. — u/aerojockey

Book refs: NOTW, WMF

Tier reasoning§

distinct Cthaeh-identity theory (Encanis); 'most evil' parallel suggestive but speculative, fringe holds

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