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The Amyr's True Purpose Is Suppressing Knowledge of the Chandrian

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The Amyr work covertly through the University Archives to erase records of the Chandrian, with Viari identified as a Ciridae agent.

About: The Amyr, The Chandrian

Also involves: The Archives, Master Lorren, The University, Imre, Haliax, Selitos

The theory§

Skarpi's telling frames the Amyr as the faithful Ruach who pledged to oppose the betrayer Lanre, but this theory holds that their true and ongoing mission is the suppression of all knowledge of the Chandrian, their names, and their signs, on the reasoning that such knowledge is itself catastrophic. To this end the Amyr maintain a covert foothold inside the University Archives, using positions such as Lorren's acquisitions team to gather and prune dangerous records before they spread. Viari, Lorren's gatherer who works the Archives, is identified as a Ciridae: his arms bear pale scars that echo the bloody Ciridae tattoos, and he goes about heavily armed for a man whose ostensible job is collecting books. Selitos's curse that Lanre's own name be turned against him is read not as a literal weapon but as part of the same campaign to control how the Chandrian's story is remembered. The near-homophony of 'Amyr' and 'Imre', the town beside the University, is offered as further circumstantial pointing.

Evidence§

  • That the Amyr seek to kill the Chandrian when their true purpose is to protect the world from discovering their story and the disastrous consequences that follow.
    OP's core claim: the Amyr's real mission is suppressing Chandrian knowledge, not killing them.u/TheLastSock
  • we have to establish that the part of the Amyr operate out of the University Library in order to keep its extensive records free of mention of the Amyr and Chandrian. And it also serves as a basis of operations for removing books from other libraries.
    Mechanism: the Amyr work covertly from the University Library to prune dangerous records.u/TheLastSock
  • Lorren's Giller Viari, is an Amyr, a fact we can pick up on based on his job position in acquisitions and matching arm scares: … highlighting a **few pale scars that ran over his knuckles and up his arms**.
    Viari identified as an Amyr/Ciridae via his pale arm scars echoing the bloody tattoos.u/TheLastSock
  • He also is fully armed, as you would expect of an Amyr: … I saw he wore a long knife in addition to his sword.
    Viari goes heavily armed, unexpected for a mere book collector, supporting Amyr identity.u/TheLastSock
  • Which would motivate him to discourage anyone from looking for that information in his own library. Which is exactly what he does by acquiescing Kvothe of being childish for looking for them: … “I am advising you to avoid the appearance of boyish fancy.”
    Lorren inferred an Amyr; he actively discourages Kvothe from researching the Chandrian.u/TheLastSock
  • Cob's mispronunciation of Imre as "Amary", given the other evidence, is probably close to the truth: … they were smack in the middle of **Amary’s** town square.
    Circumstantial: near-homophony of Amyr and Imre, the University town.u/TheLastSock
  • you take the fact that there's a lack of sensitive info about both the Chandrian and Amyr, at the University, to mean that the Amyr are pruning the info about the Chandrian. … we've seen the Chandrian prune info about themselves, so it's likely they're responsible for the dearth of info about themselves at the University.
    CounterCounter: the missing records may be the Chandrian pruning themselves, not the Amyr.u/Jezer1
  • this is just an incoherent mishmash of mildly odd word choices and similar spellings. Just about any story is going to have a few odd things in it just by chance
    CounterCounter: dismisses the wordplay evidence as chance coincidence, not a real pattern.u/aerojockey

Book refs: NOTW, WMF

Tier reasoning§

tier verified: Viari clues give real textual support, plausible holds

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